Whitewater Mailing Lists & Message Boards
What is a message board?
A message board is a place where people can read messages and either
to existing messages or compose new messages. A message with it's
(and replys to replys) is called a thread, and the display of the
is usually such that you can read an entire thread or skip to the next
The original message board system is called the Usenet, or Internet
Newsgroups. There are well over 10,000 active news groups - one for
any subject. The paddling community's news group is rec.boats.paddle.
more news groups were recently added, rec.boats.paddle.whitewater and
The whitewater newsgroup isn't seeing much action - the whitewater
seem to have taken over the original rec.boats.paddle group, with the
sea kayaking and flatwater boaters using the touring group.
Warning: If you post a message to a Usenet news group, your
address will be picked up by automatic scanning programs and you will
put on a bunch of spam mailing lists. If you want to avoid this,
your newsreader return address to give a false address.
Many places are setting up newer Web based message boards (not a
of the Usenet) that specialize in local boating areas or special types
of boating. These sites are completely web based, can be accessed thru
your browser, and are controlled by an administratior who can set and
rules of conduct.
How to access a message board
The traditional way to access the Usenet is to use a news reader
to pull the messages off your ISP's newsgroup system (your ISP should
info on setting up your software to get the messages). Netscape and
have versions of newsreader software, or you might try a third party
like Forte's Agent. This is an
news reader that allows you to download new messages or subjects and
go offline to read and respond to them at your leisure.
You use the newsreader software to 'subscribe' to one or more
and then your software keeps track of what messages you have read, and
only downloads new messages.
If your ISP doesn't carry the Usenet (newsgroups) you can subscribe
to a news service like Airnews,
have a very complete set of news groups and have a long retention time
(the messages stay on their system for a week or more).
The newer (and easier although slower) way to access Usenet
is to use your browser to access web sites which are set up to carry
news group messages (keep in mind that the Usenet and WWW are separate
systems). Sites like Deja carry the
in a web format. Newsguy also
it in a web format but requires a $25/year subscription.
Whitewater Message Board List
Rec.Boats.Paddle (news reader based
site) - rec.boats.paddle
(web browser based site)- The Usenet granddaddy of them all, up to a
hundred messages a day.
(news reader), rec.boats.paddle.whitewater
(web) - Not used to much, the whitewater people are posting in
(news reader), rec.boats.paddle.touring
(web) - Used by sea kayakers, touring and flatwater people who got
of being drowned out in rec.boats.paddle
NE Paddlers Message Board
- Wayne's web message board for northeast US boaters.
Whitewater Message Board - Karl's web message board for northeast
- Active web message board
Sports Whitewater Rafting Board - a new commercial web board, not
- a web board for the down easters among us.
What is a mailing list?
A mailing list is a discussion group on a topic specified by the host
the mailing list. Participants send a message to the mailing list
and that server forwards a copy to everyone subscribed to the list. It
is very similar to the Usenet news groups with the following
You can participate with just an email account - worldwide web and
access is not required.
The mailing lists are usually moderated. So flames, spews, spams are
much less then in news groups. Misbehave and the moderator kicks you
the list. Anonymous posts or ip address spoofing are usually not
The mailing lists are targeted at a much smaller audience than the
often to a geographically local group.
All the messages come to your email box, so on high volume lists you
to check your mail regularly, and your email reader should have filters
to put each mailing lists messages into its own folder (I use Forte's
for both email and newsgroups - spend some $ and get the registered
You can put the mailing lists in a 'vacation' mode to suspend your
You can have the day's messages combined and sent as 1 digest message,
but its harder to scan thru them unless your email program 'bursts'
into separate messages again.
You send an email to the command server to subscribe to it, and
to the server with configuration commands. Usually when you subscribe
command server sends you a confirmation message with the config
available. Subscribe, unsubscribe and config commands are sent to a
email address than are the emails that are forwarded to the others on
mailing list, so keep a record of both addresses. Its embarassing to
frantic unsubscribe commands to the mailing list where everyone sees
rather than to the command server.
The list below has the mailing list and description with sub headers of
the command list server address and the subscription command which is
be included in the body of message to the command list server. No
or other text should be in the subscribe message.
Whitewater Mailing Lists
To subscribe to one of the mailing lists, click on the first subheading
which will use your email program to send a message to the list server.
Leave the subject blank, and include the text in the second subheading,
substituting your name. The list server will send you a confirming
with instructions on posting and unsubscribing from the list. It may
ask for a second confirming message from you to be sure someone else
signing you up for a list without your knowledge. More
information is at the RockandWater
NYC Kayaker - mostly sea kayaking, but some whitewater
Northeast Whitewater Mailing List
subscribe kayak-L in the body of the message.
- Rafting News - no prissy kayakers or canoeists here, just down
Northeastern US Whitewater River Rats List - I think the name pretty
US River Issues - keep up on hot topics like river access, quotas,
California River Issues - local version of above list.
French Speaking Kayakers and Canoeists - Parlay voo?
Paddlewise - Sea Kayaking
River Access Issues (updated as of 5/00)
Racing Press Releases
information is my opinion
only and may
what some people consider reality.
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